Concerted effort against Asian men


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    I don’t know where to post this and not sure if it belongs on aznidentity so I’ll post it here.

    I’m sure you already know, but the Asian shopkeeper putting the black woman in a headlock is sending shockwaves throughout the black community. I’ve seen tweets coming from black twitter (even among Asian women who shill for black people) point out the incident and compared to the Asian man in Get Out (that Asian men too are Anti-Black and represent the idea that isolated incidents are not so isolated. A dig at white people too.)

    I don’t think this was a coincidence. This might sound like a conspiracy but Iron Fist is already suffering major setbacks and Ghost In the Shell is also set to suffer the same major setbacks. Sentiment about the movie is negative EVERYWHERE. These setbacks cost money and these movies are not cheap. I think that the increase in positive sentiments towards Asian men and the demands for better representation in media is having a huge effect on these works.

    This is good for us, but someone out there (I’m guessing Jews, Hollywood) is out for blood. Timeline of events so far: jab by Steve Harvey (which backfired), attack against Jeff Sessions’s granddaughter (which backfired) by black MTV employee, but now we have Get Out and the shopkeeper incident which places us again at a disadvantage. At this point, I’m expecting Jews and Blacks to come at us even harder this year. Who knows what the outcome will be?


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    @secondstrike said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    You realize that if hypothetically, “bad” immigrants are gone, there will be out-competed Whites who will blame “Chinks” [like right now], right?

    They get hired right now anyways. Those people can cry all they want. Socially they get stomped right back into the ground.

    BTW, the future I expect to be much worse than currently. The reason is that Asia is no longer just some sweat shop. In the next 1 to 2 decades, it will be Asian products that will dominate the world markets. Not only will jobs be gone, but their world-leading brands and products will be gone too. Look up DJI and Huawei. That’s just a small sample.

    If automation is really going to have such a huge impact, I think that the big money will be who can create the better “recipes”. If we get to a point where all countries can automate production, then you could see brands and products be a regional thing. Those companies can get taxed and it’ll come back around to people as basic income. The future is bright in my opinion. As long as we don’t get nuked that is.

    I’m still waiting on @natalie_ng to get back to me vis a vis talking to my friend about his white wife and in-laws.


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    @suiko_no_shin

    I’m not talking about scraps. We don’t need scraps. We don’t need them to like or care about us. The thing about what I’m doing is that I want Asian-American communities to have jobs, places to stay, not having to compete with foreigners, etc. The improvements that Trump is making is not race-based. 235,000 jobs were added in February and we have a repeal/replace Obamacare coming up. More people are going to have money in their pockets or have health insurance that finally works rather than in name only. Asian Americans can lift themselves up with all the tools we have available. The whole point of conservatism is to give you the tools and then leaving it up to you. Asians have always succeeded at that. If they fail, I’d be surprised.

    You realize that if hypothetically, “bad” immigrants are gone, there will be out-competed Whites who will blame “Chinks” [like right now], right? Try to think through things on a longer time scale. BTW, the future I expect to be much worse than currently. The reason is that Asia is no longer just some sweat shop. In the next 1 to 2 decades, it will be Asian products that will dominate the world markets. Not only will jobs be gone, but their world-leading brands and products will be gone too. Look up DJI and Huawei. That’s just a small sample.


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    @secondstrike said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin This is silly. Just drop it. You pretty asked for those funny choruses when you responded to the debate with an irrelevant question, “If Trump the 45th president”.

    The question was not irrelevant. I’m merely posing the question to see if natalie is living in reality or fantasy land.

    Asians are not part of the White club. Stop deluding yourself.

    never said we were

    We’re being used as meat shields for white supremacy - at school, at work, for white police brutality, and even for racist hollywood behavior.

    I disagree. We’re being manipulated and you guys can call it whatever you want, I don’t care. I’m attacking it from an angle where it shakes their foundations to the top. Whoever that may be. I’m against framing it as “white supremacy” because that puts yourself into a position where you’re immediately dismissed much like BLM and the alt-right. I attack social justice radicalism, entertainment representations, social perceptions, etc. You have to give people the ability to resist the manipulation. I’m already seeing evidence of that working on r/marvelstudios for example and you know what? aznidentity fingerprints were nowhere near it. Your brand of activism does not work. People are advocating for AM even if AM doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    Just because they throw us scraps every now and then, doesn’t mean they like us or care about us.

    I’m not talking about scraps. We don’t need scraps. We don’t need them to like or care about us. The thing about what I’m doing is that I want Asian-American communities to have jobs, places to stay, not having to compete with foreigners, etc. The improvements that Trump is making is not race-based. 235,000 jobs were added in February and we have a repeal/replace Obamacare coming up. More people are going to have money in their pockets or have health insurance that finally works rather than in name only. Asian Americans can lift themselves up with all the tools we have available. The whole point of conservatism is to give you the tools and then leaving it up to you. Asians have always succeeded at that. If they fail, I’d be surprised.

    @natalie_ng @secondstrike

    In the picture I linked above, my friend and his wife are in the front, 1st two. So do you want to tell him directly about white supremacy or do you want me to? I can give you the link to his FB profile.


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    @suiko_no_shin This is silly. Just drop it. You pretty asked for those funny choruses when you responded to the debate with an irrelevant question, “If Trump the 45th president”. Asians are not part of the White club. Stop deluding yourself. We’re being used as meat shields for white supremacy - at school, at work, for white police brutality, and even for racist hollywood behavior. Just because they throw us scraps every now and then, doesn’t mean they like us or care about us.


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    @natalie_ng

    you have a mental disorder. You should consider seeing a professional.


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    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin

    http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=c4GRJgMXHo8&p=n#/64;75 :wink:

    Is Donald Trump the 45th President of the United States? Yes or No. If you answer one way, you are delusional.


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    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    Doesn’t seem like you care much for friendships anyways seeing how quick you are to dismiss an Asian friend and her issues.

    I don’t remember dismissing any Asian friends and issues.

    Edit: oh wait, you blocked me on your twitter. lol nice facade display of support this entire time. You sure had me fooled. Good to know you make more effort to hide the two face from your WM friends a bit more. Sure don’t wanna hurt that white fragility.

    I blocked you like a month ago. You never noticed. That’s exactly why I blocked you. I don’t keep people on my Twitter who mute me and only pay attention when I have something to say about what you tweet. I’m not your underling.

    I was your biggest supporter. I really was. Despite the fact that I was warned about you, I always spoke highly of you to everyone. Looks like my friend was RIGHT all along and he had you pegged exactly.

    That aside, even if there are a few “good” ones, the bad ones far outnumber the exceptions.

    How many times are you going to say that? That’s one of the big problems with your “war on white people”. You will one day realize there are more good people out there than bad, and these people don’t know anything about minority oppression. Of our family friends, there are two that come to mind. The husband was the financial adviser to a Fortune 500 company and his wife (now deceased, god bless her soul) they’ve done nothing but be there and help us. They were rich. You would have me believe they have some sort of plot to keep us down. Quite the opposite. Had we listened to them things would be different today.

    And why is that? WMAF should NOT outnumber AMAF and yet it does because you know why? Because brainwashing from—yep, you guessed it, WHITE media.

    JEW media.

    Unlike you, I’m not gonna lay down and accept WMAF as the future or the future of my proudly full-Asian offspring. I’m going to work to fight against it. And I’m glad that there are actually intelligent, understanding, proud and protective men to help like shadowsweep and Arcterex who exist in my community, otherwise you and LLAG will have us all pimped out to white and black men a long time ago because of the thought process of WMAF/BMAF being “our future.” Fuck that self-defeatist notion.

    I would never pimp out Asian women to other races. REALITY paints a different picture. Asian women pimp themselves out. They fully and willingly accept the brainwashing because it gives them power at the cost of Asian men. So yeah. AMWF and WMAF are our future like it or not. We have real relationships with kids or kids on the way. It’s already done. There’s nothing you can do to stop it. That you actually think you can reverse the trend is beyond foolish.

    Funny how they don’t think the same way about me or my people yet, some of us are so willing to give them what they never gave to us.

    Who the fuck cares? Seriously? Who gives a damn? I don’t care what some random dumbass online thinks. I care about the laws, enforcement of laws, culture and so on so forth. I don’t care about some retard underling who logs online and writes comments on FB/Twitter/Reddit or whatever the fuck. I don’t give a shit about that.

    since you have somehow deluded yourself into thinking Asian American = white, amirite?

    Strawman fallacy. I never equated Asian-Americans to whites not now or ever. I’m the most pro-Asian guy out there and yeah, if it means me putting a foot in your asses then I’m going to do that. There are some Chinese-Americans in Maryland that want to have a word with you. Apparently, only 1st gen Chinese such as those and those who voted for Trump understand that we can’t have these other groups invade our communities and take our jobs. Chinese understand this just fine. But you and other Asian-Americans however supplicate to the Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims and Jews. It’s not about white people. It’s about policies those white people enact. If it’s good for us then I don’t give a shit where it comes from.

    LOL says the guy who proudly boasts about being a steadfast conservative. Nowhere did I ever consider myself a true liberal and have stated several times myself that I’m willing to embrace conservatism had I been in my ancestral country. But nope, I’m the “extremist.”

    Oh god and here comes the ad hominem. So EVEN after openly agreeing with you about affirmative action, even admitting to supporting the gun laws and even going so far as to giving in and agreeing with you that Trump is a god-sent miracle to the world, you still wanna come after me because in your mind, anyone who challenges you is automatically a “leftist”. Wow, and yet I’m the “extremist” lmao.

    You’re a liberal and you’re an extreme one at that. You don’t want to work to unite all Americans, you want to work to bring up Jews and Blacks hoping that they’re going to throw a bone to Hispanics and Asians. You want to undermine 60% of our population who in some small part are interconnected with our people. You don’t want to improve things the peaceful way, you want outright war because you see ALL whites as subhumans. You’re no better than the white racists.

    Re: mental health, some people have notified me of their concerns for your mental health, which was why I brought it up (has nothing to do with rightist or leftist bullshit) but after this interaction, I’m not so sure if it’s so much mental issues or just a severe case of Channism.

    You can throw as many insults at me as you want. Won’t change a thing. It’s just a convenient cop-out so that you don’t address anything I’m saying. I’ve heard this 1,000,000,000 times from so many people from so many different message boards. I don’t care what people use anymore because they all resort to the same shit when they can’t logically refute the things I’m saying.

    My track record for supporting the things I care about and being right on the money is 100%. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. In my 34 years of life. You can’t beat that. No one can. You want to know why I can move a stock price from 2.00 to 14.00? Because I’m fucking right. You see Donald Trump as President? Because I’m fucking right. You should be extremely concerned, if a guy as accurate as I am, is telling you that you’re on the wrong path.


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    @suiko_no_shin

    so what do you think I should tell my friend and his family? That we’re at war with white people?

    Doesn’t seem like you care much for friendships anyways seeing how quick you are to dismiss an Asian friend and her issues.

    Edit: oh wait, you blocked me on your twitter. lol nice facade display of support this entire time. You sure had me fooled. Good to know you make more effort to hide the two face from your WM friends a bit more. Sure don’t wanna hurt that white fragility.

    Oh yeah, how are you going to explain to me how I should go to war with whites despite a white congregation that helped bring my parents from Cambodia to here, and our longest family friends from that church are white?

    If you feel indebted to them for bringing your family to a shithole then that’s your business. That aside, even if there are a few “good” ones, the bad ones far outnumber the exceptions. Nothing wrong with that logic, right? It’s the exact same argument they love to use against me and other POC.

    With AMAF being only 10% of all new marriages for native Asian-Americans, AMWF and WMAF are the future.

    And why is that? WMAF should NOT outnumber AMAF and yet it does because you know why? Because brainwashing from—yep, you guessed it, WHITE media.

    Unlike you, I’m not gonna lay down and accept WMAF as the future or the future of my proudly full-Asian offspring. I’m going to work to fight against it. And I’m glad that there are actually intelligent, understanding, proud and protective men to help like shadowsweep and Arcterex who exist in my community, otherwise you and LLAG will have us all pimped out to white and black men a long time ago because of the thought process of WMAF/BMAF being “our future.” Fuck that self-defeatist notion.

    White people are a group too and they deserve just as much a future as you do.

    Funny how they don’t think the same way about me or my people yet, some of us are so willing to give them what they never gave to us. I wish these “people” thought the same when they decided to invade my ancestral country, kill my men, and rape my women. I wish they thought the same when they decided to drop bombs on us, spilling so much Agent Orange that gave one of my close friends cancer. I wish they thought the same when they go around sexpatting, taking advantage of women in poverty situations in my ancestral homeland, organizing pedophile rings and molesting our children. I wish they thought the same when they reduced me to nothing more than a fucking stereotype/caricature to be stared at and harassed when walking through fucking bumsville, South Carolina. I wish they thought the same when they emasculated my men so badly that it tore up our community and caused a huge division between our genders. But not that any of this matters, amirite? Because any criticisms against these beloved whites of yours is “anti-Asian American” since you have somehow deluded yourself into thinking Asian American = white, amirite?

    But, imo, the “people” who are like this…

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    don’t deserve any sympathy from me.

    When we get there, we’ll get around to basic income.

    Except it’s already here. I already said CA companies have finally managed to automate a lot of jobs in direct response to the raised minimum wage.

    Do you seriously want more foreigners to come in, explode their population and then get LESS money b/c you have to share with more people?!?

    Why not ask that congregation that helped bring your family here that same question? It’s ironic how now that your family is here, you want to prevent all immigration, Asian or otherwise, from coming in, thereby minimizing our population even more than it already is. Besides, more immigrants coming in doesn’t necessarily equate to having to share money with more people. I’ve worked for biotech companies in the past where the CEOs/employers were South Asian immigrants. Yes, believe it or not, immigrants can start their own businesses and hire American-borns too, regardless of what alt-righters have fed you.

    But at the same time, perhaps you’re right, perhaps it is better to prevent immigration here. Definitely do not want the brain drain from Asia and luring all the brightest, and most innovative of minds to work as slaves here when they should be building Asia up.

    This is the kind of extremism I’m talking about.

    LOL says the guy who proudly boasts about being a steadfast conservative. Nowhere did I ever consider myself a true liberal and have stated several times myself that I’m willing to embrace conservatism had I been in my ancestral country. But nope, I’m the “extremist.”

    You’re no different from Yvette Felarca and all those other SJW’s that use any means necessary to achieve their goals. You/people like you put on a terrible face for Asian-Americans and then expect 60% of the population to just fall over for you. Nah-ah. That’s not going to happen.

    I don’t obsessively follow SJW horseshit like you so have absolutely no idea what you’re going on about. And lol I have no clue what that has anything to do with anything.

    I can never win with leftists because you don’t even understand the basics anymore.

    Oh god and here comes the ad hominem. So EVEN after openly agreeing with you about affirmative action, even admitting to supporting the gun laws and even going so far as to giving in and agreeing with you that Trump is a god-sent miracle to the world, you still wanna come after me because in your mind, anyone who challenges you is automatically a “leftist”. Wow, and yet I’m the “extremist” lmao.

    You have zero empathy, no concept of the law, no capability to see the bigger picture, nothing.

    Ooh, careful. Your double standards are showing, because apparently, I “have no concept of empathy”, etc…due to an online disagreement with you but your dearly beloved whites do despite their actions against us in the past several centuries screaming otherwise. But please, r/AA mod, continue to enlighten us about how bad whites have it and why I’m being such a big meanie to them.

    Re: mental health, some people have notified me of their concerns for your mental health, which was why I brought it up (has nothing to do with rightist or leftist bullshit) but after this interaction, I’m not so sure if it’s so much mental issues or just a severe case of Channism.

    But it’s all good. Go back to enjoying that Asian privilege you think your white masters will happily hand to you. You’re their favorite over every other minority after all :wink:

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    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin
    Are white people your people?

    With AMAF being only 10% of all new marriages for native Asian-Americans, AMWF and WMAF are the future. We Asian men date white females because Asian females for the large part are dating white folks or guys of other races. Do you not get this?

    Not really. There are a lot of pro-white Lus/Chans and a lot of brainwashed Asians who buy into the “whites can do no wrong” rhetoric so I wouldn’t say you’re going that much against the grain.

    I never said whites can do no wrong. But you don’t have any inkling of what we’re going up against and the only thing within your sphere of existence is white supremacy. I’m looking past that because we have an interconnected future. White people are a group too and they deserve just as much a future as you do. All groups are fighting for their chance. But apparently you don’t seem to understand that bringing in Muslim refugees and illegal Mexican immigrants is not the way to go. I support ALL Americans. But outside of that? Better get in line. Seems to me that you prefer adding power to other groups and that’s anti-Asian American to me.

    Except I’ve never heard Trump speak out against automation? Or the usage of self-check outs and automatic self-services now in place everywhere, putting many employees out of jobs? All I hear is him (and you) blah blah blahing about China and immigrants stealing jobs? But who knows, maybe he did, correct me if I’m wrong. Just show me an article.

    When we get there, we’ll get around to basic income. Do you seriously want more foreigners to come in, explode their population and then get LESS money b/c you have to share with more people?!?

    Which is why I advocate attacking them first mercilessly and worry about everyone else afterwards but to each their own.

    This is the kind of extremism I’m talking about. You’re no different from Yvette Felarca and all those other SJW’s that use any means necessary to achieve their goals. You/people like you put on a terrible face for Asian-Americans and then expect 60% of the population to just fall over for you. Nah-ah. That’s not going to happen.

    Now on a side note, I do think you need to get help (and this time, I’m not kidding around). A lot of Asians living in the middle of nowhere with no group to belong to feel a strong need to assimilate (just to feel like they belong), and in your case, it appears to be assimilation with the whites who can do (and have done) us way more harm than good. It fucks with you psychologically and sooner or later, you find yourself absorbing a lot of the BS that they feed you. I or cleanslate or secondstrike can spend all day arguing with you but I don’t think any of this is productive to the state of your mental health tbh. I think you need to get offline and seek counseling.

    Here we go. The “you need mental help” speech. Of course it’s never your fault am I right? I can never win with leftists because you don’t even understand the basics anymore. You have zero empathy, no concept of the law, no capability to see the bigger picture, nothing. You don’t even understand Asian-Americans 1st. You say you do, but you don’t. Your actions point towards undermining Asian-Americans.


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    @natalie_ng

    so what do you think I should tell my friend and his family? That we’re at war with white people?
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    Oh yeah, how are you going to explain to me how I should go to war with whites despite a white congregation that helped bring my parents from Cambodia to here, and our longest family friends from that church are white? That they’ve treated our family better than anyone else?


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    @suiko_no_shin

    Muslims/Middle-Easterners are your people? Mexicans are your people?

    Are white people your people?

    I understand why so that is why I go against every Asian and willing to be seen as the bad guy.

    Not really. There are a lot of pro-white Lus/Chans and a lot of brainwashed Asians who buy into the “whites can do no wrong” rhetoric so I wouldn’t say you’re going that much against the grain.

    I don’t think so. Liberal white males with Asian females think and act a certain way.

    The number of white supremacists/TRPillers/alt-righters chasing AFs make any number of liberals with AFs seem insignificant. Unless r/hapas is only incorrect when they don’t conveniently fit your narrative (aka make your party look bad).

    What do you think the American’s 1st strategy is? Why do you think the top corporations were against Trump?

    Except I’ve never heard Trump speak out against automation? Or the usage of self-check outs and automatic self-services now in place everywhere, putting many employees out of jobs? All I hear is him (and you) blah blah blahing about China and immigrants stealing jobs? But who knows, maybe he did, correct me if I’m wrong. Just show me an article.

    Globalism is the source.

    Oh gee, I wonder what imperialistic group of assholes caused that.

    The left is the one that supports globalism.

    Sure, not denying that (yes, you can bash liberals all you want, I wouldn’t give a shit, because unlike you, I don’t blindly embrace any white party).

    but Asians natural propensity to succeed in spite of all makes Asians 1st. Whites being complacent will move them downwards on their own.

    Ah if only whites will allow that to happen. With them holding all the power in the world, I seriously doubt they will let Asians naturally rise past them without finding some way to put us down. Which is why I advocate attacking them first mercilessly and worry about everyone else afterwards but to each their own.

    sometimes I have to step in for Blacks and Hispanics

    Except I’ve never seen you do that.

    I am operating on an extremely high level

    ??? okay???

    Well, anyways, if it makes you feel any better, I agree that it’s better for Asians that Trump won too. This con man has the potential to destroy his wretched country and give China/the rest of Asia a chance to rise and for that, I applaud him.

    Now on a side note, I do think you need to get help (and this time, I’m not kidding around). A lot of Asians living in the middle of nowhere with no group to belong to feel a strong need to assimilate (just to feel like they belong), and in your case, it appears to be assimilation with the whites who can do (and have done) us way more harm than good. It fucks with you psychologically and sooner or later, you find yourself absorbing a lot of the BS that they feed you. I or cleanslate or secondstrike can spend all day arguing with you but I don’t think any of this is productive to the state of your mental health tbh. I think you need to get offline and seek counseling.


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    @secondstrike said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    There is no looming threat of war between China and the US. That’s been defused. Kushner and Tillerson turned it all around. So it’s all good now. Our only conflict left is North Korea.

    Don’t forget the Thucydides trap. It’s not over yet. The transition of power from West to East is very unlikely to happen without a fight. The deliberate misrepresentation and flaring up of the regional South China Seas into a “fight for international law and world peace” along with the economic stranglehold, TPP, were just two of their attempts to contain China. Britain handing over its power to USA was a very unique event since the two are basically relatives.

    Xi Jinping:

    “There is no such thing as the so-called Thucydides Trap in the world. But should major countries time and again make the mistakes of strategic miscalculation, they might create such traps for themselves.”

    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    Same goes for Republican so I guess Arc was right about both parties filled with pro-white agenda. That being said, hard for me to empathize even a tiny bit with a party that is against the very type of people my family are; immigrants/refugees.

    Muslims/Middle-Easterners are your people? Mexicans are your people? Both parties have an agenda but it’s about which ones Asians can align with more than the other. Right now that’s right-wing although people don’t understand why. I understand why so that is why I go against every Asian and willing to be seen as the bad guy.

    I don’t think that means much. West/northeast tend to be liberal because minorities live in those areas and they will swing those states to liberal. Having lived in California my entire life, I can confidently say TONS of Californian whites, particularly the men, are conservative.

    I don’t think so. Liberal white males with Asian females think and act a certain way. I can see a conservative and liberal guy from a mile away, even online. One of the obvious things is that they talk different. For example the guy I argued with on Twitter who married a Japanese woman and took her family name. I knew that guy was liberal the moment he spouted off his first sentence.

    …or you can fight the capitalist system that is in place that encourages the finding of cheap labor?

    What do you think the American’s 1st strategy is? Why do you think the top corporations were against Trump?

    Sure but I’m having a hard time understanding why you rather attack the symptom of the problem over the source? Whites = source, cheap labor in immigrants = symptoms.

    Globalism is the source. TPP but was one step further towards that. The left is the one that supports globalism. Donald Trump supports nationalism. To the detriment of both Dems and Reps. Nationalism is for us, the people.

    It just sounds to me that you’re okay with being 2nd option to whites (despite how qualified you may be) as long as other POC are not in your way.

    I don’t think you’re understanding. Blacks/Hispanics/Muslims down, Whites/Asians up, but Asians natural propensity to succeed in spite of all makes Asians 1st. Whites being complacent will move them downwards on their own. So you see, it’s a power play. But nobody is willing to play it at my level (or is even at my level).

    Throughout our interaction, I’m seeing excuses after excuses made to justify, dismiss or defend white behavior, which, I guess makes sense now after seeing how quick you have been to defend random WFs on twitter, even against me.

    I call things straight down the middle and sometimes that means I will step in for whites. Sometimes I have to go against Asians, and sometimes I have to step in for Blacks and Hispanics. I am operating on an extremely high level. Race is but one part. I have to think about the values of a society, law and order, prosperity, etc. I do not have the luxury of fighting a race war. I don’t just want things to be better for Asian people but I want the environment around Asian people to be better so that the future generation will see a better day.


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    @suiko_no_shin

    That’s school politics though.

    That doesn’t justify it having to be said in public and potentially in front of other students. This is what I mean by brewing resentment—when other minorities hear crap like that, of course they’re gonna be upset.

    Most blacks are Democrats but the actual movers and shakers are white.

    Same goes for Republican so I guess Arc was right about both parties filled with pro-white agenda. That being said, hard for me to empathize even a tiny bit with a party that is against the very type of people my family are; immigrants/refugees.

    57% west/northeast (liberal) and 42% South and Midwest (conservative).

    I don’t think that means much. West/northeast tend to be liberal because minorities live in those areas and they will swing those states to liberal. Having lived in California my entire life, I can confidently say TONS of Californian whites, particularly the men, are conservative.

    I will fight with every breath that I take to stop unnecessary immigration.

    …or you can fight the capitalist system that is in place that encourages the finding of cheap labor? I think it’s much more productive to do that rather than attacking immigrants (the very type of people we come from) or constantly blame the lost of jobs on China or whatever republicans like to blame to divert from the real source of the problem. In the end, even if we were successful at moving all jobs back from China or kicking out every single immigrant in this country to drive wages up, capitalists/business owners are constantly on the look-out to lower wages/cost of production and for sure they will look into automation. It’s already been done in California after CA decided to raise minimum wage, it can definitely be done again with most manual labor. In the end, you would STILL be out of a job.

    What I want to see is Asian-Americans be put first before any other immigrant. That’s what I want to see. Full stop. I don’t care about whites, I don’t care about white preference.

    Sure but I’m having a hard time understanding why you rather attack the symptom of the problem over the source? Whites = source, cheap labor in immigrants = symptoms. It just sounds to me that you’re okay with being 2nd option to whites (despite how qualified you may be) as long as other POC are not in your way. This eerily reminds me of how Asian feminists like to blame AMs on #hypermasculazn and attempting to assimilate to toxic white culture over attacking white culture itself. In the end, I honestly don’t understand this concept of letting whites slide by when they’re the ones who created this entire establishment to begin with.

    I debunked that on aznidentity (and got banned for it).

    I don’t think that’s why you got banned now that I’m understanding your stance a little better. I think the mods made the right call when they understood that that type of sub wasn’t the right place for you. Throughout our interaction, I’m seeing excuses after excuses made to justify, dismiss or defend white behavior, which, I guess makes sense now after seeing how quick you have been to defend random WFs on twitter, even against me. And tbh, I know several AFs on AI who are much less forgiving of whites than you are, whereas r/AI is more about attacking the source (whites) while allying with their other victims when convenient. Given that, I suspect that was why you got banned but I do believe the mods had both yours and their best interests at heart when they did so. That sub wasn’t for you.

    It’s entirely optional and it’s built into other foreigner programs as well.

    Where did you read this?

    There is no looming threat of war between China and the US.

    Oh okay, so all american nukes/missiles pointed towards China have been removed? The american navy is no longer trespassing onto the South China Sea?


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    @suiko_no_shin said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    There is no looming threat of war between China and the US. That’s been defused. Kushner and Tillerson turned it all around. So it’s all good now. Our only conflict left is North Korea.

    Don’t forget the Thucydides trap. It’s not over yet. The transition of power from West to East is very unlikely to happen without a fight. The deliberate misrepresentation and flaring up of the regional South China Seas into a “fight for international law and world peace” along with the economic stranglehold, TPP, were just two of their attempts to contain China. Britain handing over its power to USA was a very unique event since the two are basically relatives.


  • Level 1 - Sergeant

    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin

    Back in my high school, right before I graduated, there was a sudden increase of Asian students into the school and I distinctly remembered one of the teachers (WM) proclaimed to another teacher (WF) how glad he was that there were more Asian students pouring into the school, because that meant higher test score averages, which meant the school district would stop questioning how “competent” the teachers were.

    That’s school politics though. Their jobs or funding may be on the line. Getting right down to it, some race of students ARE better performers than others.

    Hmm…aren’t most blacks Democrats though? If anything, I think republicans consist of mostly white more so than Democrats.

    Most blacks are Democrats but the actual movers and shakers are white.

    And as far as I’m concerned, a large number of yellow feverists alt-righters who go after AFs on the basis that they’re “replacement women” for the WFs who all turned feminist tend to be republican-leaning.

    The % for WMAF across most areas are more or less the same. 57% west/northeast (liberal) and 42% South and Midwest (conservative). It’s just that r/hapas sensationalizes alt-right and never covers liberal WMAF by name but that’s who they are most of the time. I’d wager liberal WMAF is several times worse than anything else.

    And again, it goes back to white folks. We can view immigrants as the issue all we want but in the end, while we criticize immigrants/usage of immigrants for “stealing our jobs”, there’s no denying that with or without immigrants, the whites will always have an easier time taking our jobs while having much less experience/qualifications.

    We shouldn’t have to compete with anybody we don’t have to. I know that first hand with having to compete against illegal immigrants AND LOSING. Never again. Not for the future generations. Not for my cousin’s kids. I will fight with every breath that I take to stop unnecessary immigration. Asia doesn’t have any unnecessary immigration. It’s all tightly controlled. We should be like them. Especially Japan.

    And while we’re at it, last I checked, the guys choosing to hire those immigrants in the first place because of stingy capitalist greed are WMs. While we’re here attacking the immigrants as the main problem, those rich, capitalist WMs are sitting up there laughing, enjoying the show of Asians going at each others’ throats and in the end, whiteys (both the employers and the ones who easily get the jobs before Asian-Americans ever do) remain entirely unaffected. That is not what I want to see.

    What I want to see is Asian-Americans be put first before any other immigrant. That’s what I want to see. Full stop. I don’t care about whites, I don’t care about white preference. Asian-Americans are qualified. We deserve the spot in place of H1B and illegal immigrants. They take up the vast bulk even against white people.

    He already wants to check Chinese visitors’ social media accounts and with the ever looming threat of war between China and the US

    I debunked that on aznidentity (and got banned for it). It’s entirely optional and it’s built into other foreigner programs as well. China has a specific China/US visa program that predates Donald Trump. Goes all the way back for years during Obama’s admin. The only thing they did was bring that program in line with others. There is no looming threat of war between China and the US. That’s been defused. Kushner and Tillerson turned it all around. So it’s all good now. Our only conflict left is North Korea.


  • Empress of War

    @suiko_no_shin

    Back in my high school, right before I graduated, there was a sudden increase of Asian students into the school and I distinctly remembered one of the teachers (WM) proclaimed to another teacher (WF) how glad he was that there were more Asian students pouring into the school, because that meant higher test score averages, which meant the school district would stop questioning how “competent” the teachers were. The WF teacher, upon hearing this, panicked and looked around to see if anyone else heard. The two teachers saw me and the WM turned to me and told me that I better “stayed quiet” about this. Not too surprisingly, this same WM is married to an AF. But in any case, imo, that was quite an unnecessary thing to say, even if I was the only student around. This was a public high school and any number of the black/hispanic students that this WM dislikes so much could’ve potentially walked in onto the conversation.

    Then you have Democrats roll in and promise to unite and rise above it all despite the fact that Democrats are all white.

    Hmm…aren’t most blacks Democrats though? If anything, I think republicans consist of mostly white more so than Democrats. And as far as I’m concerned, a large number of yellow feverists alt-righters who go after AFs on the basis that they’re “replacement women” for the WFs who all turned feminist tend to be republican-leaning.

    White supremacy doesn’t even apply outside the US.

    LOL Idk about that

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    Imo, whites have tremendous global power, which, for the most part, they’ve used for their own self-serving interests at the expense of the rest of us. Yes, they’re the biggest group, but also due to imperialism/colonization and mass genocides of other groups.

    While I don’t care for Trump (except for the possibility that he could force gun law reciprocity in all states so that I have the ability to shoot his racist supporters in the face if they so much as lay a finger on me), I support the overturning of affirmative action and forcing blacks/whites/hispanics to compete on the same footing as us, whether that be raising their standards to the same as ours or lowering ours to their level. Although this still won’t address the issue of rich white families being able to buy their way into the Ivy League no problem while forcing others to work much harder to get in, it’s still a step up from blatant racism against specifically just Asians, which is what affirmative action is.

    Whites get hired after H1B so Asian Americans lose out.

    And again, it goes back to white folks. We can view immigrants as the issue all we want but in the end, while we criticize immigrants/usage of immigrants for “stealing our jobs”, there’s no denying that with or without immigrants, the whites will always have an easier time taking our jobs while having much less experience/qualifications. And while we’re at it, last I checked, the guys choosing to hire those immigrants in the first place because of stingy capitalist greed are WMs. While we’re here attacking the immigrants as the main problem, those rich, capitalist WMs are sitting up there laughing, enjoying the show of Asians going at each others’ throats and in the end, whiteys (both the employers and the ones who easily get the jobs before Asian-Americans ever do) remain entirely unaffected. That is not what I want to see.

    As for Trump, I wouldn’t put it past him to say/do anything anti-Asian. He already wants to check Chinese visitors’ social media accounts and with the ever looming threat of war between China and the US, even if another internment camp wouldn’t arise, the anti-Asian frenzy that he would put the entire nation in (similar to how Bush Jr. put the entire nation into an anti-Muslim paranoia) might be enough to make some of us wish to return to Asia, knowing how violent and unreasonably hateful many whites can get. Furthermore, I doubt they’ll be able to differentiate the Chinese and the rest of us because we’re all “chinks” in their minds.


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    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin I still think that the model minority myth adds fuel to the fire. Sure, blacks may observe themselves how SOME Asians do better than them but the bullshit fed by whites has fucked SEAs over for decades since we don’t tend to do as well as their model minority myth likes to claim we ALL do.

    No doubt it does add fuel to the fire. I just don’t think that whites are always feeding it to other minorities. For example during Jr High/HS I always had better memorization and understanding than the others. I didn’t like being called on and I never raised my hand but when 1-3 students get it wrong in a row, and I immediately get it right w/ no effort, the other students feel resentment. We had a diverse group of teachers so, no they weren’t all white.

    It’s almost like a divide and conquer strategy; get minorities to hate each other then we never team up to overthrow the real source of the problem; white supremacy.

    Divide and conquer is definitely real but my view of it doesn’t squarely place whites (as in Anglo) as the sole overarching villain. They’re one group out of many groups. They happen to be the biggest group so more often than not, their group wins. I think that whites as well as blacks are being manipulated to fight against each other. Hispanics and Asians (now Muslims added to the mix) are divided to fight each other. Then you have Democrats roll in and promise to unite and rise above it all despite the fact that Democrats are all white.

    White supremacy doesn’t even apply outside the US. At least not in the same way. Asians do well in Canada, UK, some parts of Europe, Australia (despite the savage racists), New Zealand. United States is a whole different thing. Asians in Asia (except for some parts in SEA) don’t even want to come here but they love going to other places like Canada.

    Now as for what to do about this, I think that handling it on a issue by issue basis is the way to go. Politically, I supported Trump. I didn’t vote for him (b/c I thought he’d lose for sure) but he won. Long story short, without government coddling, blacks and hispanics have to compete on even footing with Asians and whites. With Trump cracking down on illegal immigration, H1B, and Muslims, not only does it bring white people up, but ASIAN-AMERICANS are brought up too.

    Think about H1B. A lot of South Asians are being used as cheap high-skilled labor. The program was not intended to be used in this way. Silicon Valley has a large population of Asian-Americans who are very educated but they’re losing out to immigrants. Whites get hired after H1B so Asian Americans lose out. Knock off H1B and all of a sudden Asians are 2nd.

    As soon as Trump does something anti-Asian American best believe that I will turn on him so quick and hold his feet to the fire. In other areas, like entertainment, media, education, etc. I think we can reasonably win those now that a lot of Asian-Americans (from both political ideologies) are into some form of online activism.


  • Empress of War

    @suiko_no_shin I still think that the model minority myth adds fuel to the fire. Sure, blacks may observe themselves how SOME Asians do better than them but the bullshit fed by whites has fucked SEAs over for decades since we don’t tend to do as well as their model minority myth likes to claim we ALL do.

    Think of an employer who constantly praises another coworker in front of you (despite not giving that other coworker any kind of actual special treatment and that coworker worked his ass off on overtime hours, sometimes not even getting paid for overtime, but you don’t know that–all you hear are praises). This same employer hates on you constantly and blames his ill treatment of you on you, as ridiculous as that sounds, but loves to use the other coworker to rub it in your face. Slowly, you’re probably gonna start having some resentment towards the other coworker. That’s what I mean by the model minority bullshit fanning the fire. It’s almost like a divide and conquer strategy; get minorities to hate each other then we never team up to overthrow the real source of the problem; white supremacy.


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    @secondstrike said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    @suiko_no_shin While it’s nice that our interests coincide with them from time to time, it’s important to remember these same Whites wanted to scapegoat the new police officer, Peter Liang, and blame Jarred Ha for defending himself against white attackers.

    Yeah. I know better. Still it was nice seeing whites (not just AR/WN but all over) come to the shopkeeper’s defense. After reading FB comments and YT comments, I’m starting to think this might actually backfire. 99% of Asians on the FB comments thread (charlotte observer) were pro-shopkeeper and then add in whites plus other misc commenters (some even black lmao). It was overwhelmingly against black people’s favor. I keeps getting worse for the black female b/c apparently she ducked out the back door and skipped town. That’s not the actions of a innocent person.


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    @suiko_no_shin While it’s nice that our interests coincide with them from time to time, it’s important to remember these same Whites wanted to scapegoat the new police officer, Peter Liang, and blame Jarred Ha for defending himself against white attackers.


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    @secondstrike

    I don’t think it was done by Asians themselves. The left had planned on Hillary Clinton becoming president and continuing their crusade against China and Russia. Trump won unexpectedly and now it’s speculated that Trump will work with China and Russia instead. It’s only entertainment and mainstream media that is trying to continue the campaign but they no longer have governmental support. Despite all the good stuff Trump has done, the media only shows the bad so they can delegitimize his presidency. In a way, the left is still in power.

    I digress. There’s been some updates to the Asian shopkeeper fiasco. Apparently, what caused the shopkeeper to detain the black female was that the alarm went off. When asked if they could check her bag, she walked away, came back and pushed the shopkeeper. This part was edited out by black activists and shared everywhere rather than the longform video which raises huge red flags on the part of the black female. Here’s the latest report of it:
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/video-shows-beauty-store-manager-pinning-customer-accused-shoplifting-n733986

    Socially, black people are getting BTFO (I suspect by alt-right/white nationalists). While they aren’t doing it to help us (and they’re being offensively racist in some cases) it does help in that we got a second opinion. I wouldn’t have ever thought about the alarm going off, the box being dropped, and all the other small things. Some of those white guys are putting up a hell of a defense. The only thing that can be argued against the Asian guy is using more force then was necessary but even then, he’s actually legally able to do so. We need a bit more time for this to play out but I hope this backfires on black people.


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    @suiko_no_shin This reminds me of a post.

    **A major strategic objective for the United States is to defeat Chinese soft power.

    The “China is a racist state” message of the United States will help win allies in global, popular culture**, which is heavily influenced by ideals rooted in Western, left wing political thought, including strong currents of anti-­‐racism. Popular cultural figures from film, music, television, and sports, will be far better able to call attention to China’s racism for younger audiences worldwide than will official or semi-­‐official Washington.

    In sum, this is the “taking lemons and making lemonade” model. If it is the case that the United States is in decline, or will be in the near future, it must use every effort to assist itself. It is to the advantage of the UnitedStates to have the world consider the costs of Chinese dominance in order to grasp what will be lost.

    The United States must be prepared for it and poised to counter. In order to so effectively, there must be recognition about what has changed since the United States last confronted a peer competitor. First, this is a racially different peer opponent. Accordingly, race will be a subtext of every interaction. The United States has never faced a racially different opponent,and so race adds a new layer into superpower competition that will have advantages for the United States, as discussed below, as well and is advantages

    This study explored the causes of Chinese racism, the strategic consequences of Chinese racism, and how the United States may use this situation to advance its interests in international politics

    THE STRATEGIC CONSEQUENCES OF CHINESE RACISM: A Strategic Asymmetry for the United States Draft Report
    http://archive.is/gffS7

    In other words, it’s a psyop. I only saw so-called “deep anti-Blackness” recently. Maybe half a year ago, there was a big collaborative effort to write an anti-Blackness “wakeup call” and send it to China. I am now wondering how much of that was done by Asians themselves as opposed to agents.


  • Level 1 - Sergeant

    @natalie_ng said in Concerted effort against Asian men:

    You suspect that the Jews could come at us even harder despite the major setbacks we’ve lighted against Iron Fist and Ghost in the Shell? Wouldn’t that cost them even more money if they try to pull more shit on us and only have it backfired?

    It could just mean that they scale back projects that could be a problem and then just fit in damaging roles in other projects as they’ve been doing.

    As for blacks; I can definitely see that it’s probable that they might hit us back harder after the shopkeeper incident. There have always been a decent number of anti-Asian sentiments brewing among some of them due to whites’ feeding them of the bullshit concept of us being the “model minority” just to get under their skin and dismiss discrimination against them. So it’s certainly likely that they may up the black-on-Asian violence for all we know.

    I don’t buy it that blacks have been fed by whites about Asian model minority. They see reality in front of them. They either attack us for our abilities, achievements or they attack us for a social failing (such as Asian women and men). On some level they think that we’re cutting the line. Black people went through slavery, fought for civil rights but Asians (according to them) enjoy those successes w/o having to go through the pains.


  • Empress of War

    You suspect that the Jews could come at us even harder despite the major setbacks we’ve lighted against Iron Fist and Ghost in the Shell? Wouldn’t that cost them even more money if they try to pull more shit on us and only have it backfired?

    As for blacks; I can definitely see that it’s probable that they might hit us back harder after the shopkeeper incident. There have always been a decent number of anti-Asian sentiments brewing among some of them due to whites’ feeding them of the bullshit concept of us being the “model minority” just to get under their skin and dismiss discrimination against them. So it’s certainly likely that they may up the black-on-Asian violence for all we know.


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