Something that I always wondered about


  • Empress of War

    I read everywhere online about how AFs in WMAFs are bothered by seeing AMWFs. But what I never understood was why they were so bothered by AMs dating out if all they cared about were chasing WMs anyways? I can understand an AF who prefers only AMs getting bothered by AMWFs or AMXFs because they will perceive that as less choice of AMs in the pool to choose from and since they prefer AMs only, that’s understandable. But not white-worshipping Lus. That, I don’t understand. If anything, shouldn’t the Lus be happy for AMWFs since that would mean Asians are finally accepted by all whites if more and more wfs go for AMs? Isn’t being absorbed/assimilated by whites what they’ve always wanted?


  • administrators

    @natalie_ng said in Something that I always wondered about:

    if one is dumb enough to get brainwashed that much, then maybe one should remove oneself from the human population.

    I wish this were a problem that affects a small number of people but it’s not.

    Watch 21:00-23:40


  • Empress of War

    @secondstrike

    People can be brainwashed. We’ve seen plenty of proof.

    Yeah, that’s pretty apparent.

    Lots of Americans think “radical Islam” hates them because of their “freedumz” instead of payback for our invasion and mass murder of their families and friends.

    True. The west is sickening in this sense. They commit acts of violence all over the world and wonder why the hell everyone “hates” them so much, then goes to paint their victims as the “bad guys”, then of course, brainwashed idiots are quick to eat all this up.

    Asians think we’re “privileged” and have “deep-seated anti-Blackness”

    I think it swings both ways. Either brainwashed Asians either think we’re “privileged” and have “deep-seated anti-blackness” (PAAs kissing SJW ass) or think we’re “favored” by pinkeys for good reason and pander to alt-right propaganda (tila tequilas kissing neo Nazi ass). Either way, I’m gonna reiterate what I said before; if one is dumb enough to get brainwashed that much, then maybe one should remove oneself from the human population.


  • administrators

    @natalie_ng People can be brainwashed. We’ve seen plenty of proof.

    Lots of Americans think “radical Islam” hates them because of their “freedumz” instead of payback for our invasion and mass murder of their families and friends. These same assholes praise god every time a favorable statistical anomaly happens, but says “god works in mysterious ways” when a tsunami kills 250,000 people.

    Asians think we’re “privileged” and have “deep-seated anti-Blackness”…no word on the anti-Asian hate crimes by these so-called “victims of Asian oppression”.


  • Empress of War

    @asianmovement

    If WFs are willing to date AMs just like that, it kind of tears that narrative apart entirely

    Makes sense.


  • Huangdi

    She’s not just dating a white guy. In her indoctrinated mind, she’s fighting against a non-existent “oppressive Asian patriarchy that seeks to oppress her”. She sees herself as some liberated women, who doesn’t realize the irony that she is in a relationship with exactly the sort of misogynistic, racist, oppressive, control freak and how they use them but do not respect them at all that she thinks Asian men represent.

    I think it breaks this narrative where Asian men are the patriarchy that seeks to oppress her , asian men are misogynistic , racist , control freaks - to someone who is a lu - it breaks that mindset and narrative that Asian men should be single because they possess these charchteristics. If WFs are willing to date AMs just like that, it kind of tears that narrative apart entirely. Thus , I the more AMWF their are , the more of this I expect to happen.


  • Empress of War

    @secondstrike I honestly don’t really see people who are SO stupid to get brainwashed that badly as victims. Same goes for terrorists or religious extremists. If one is dumb enough to get brainwashed that much, then maybe one should remove oneself from the human population.


  • administrators

    @natalie_ng Hmm. I think it’s a numbers problem. Look at Asia. They see white scumbag after scumbag, white pedophile after pedophile yet Whites still have privilege. Why? It’s double bind mind control [http://forum.asiansoul.org/topic/357/core-gender-war-s-internalized-racism-self-hate-white-worship/2]. I copied it below.

    Double bind effect - Ultra mind control

    This is the most insidious mind control of all. Your mind can become so well controlled through stereotypes that you will subconsciously fit facts to uphold racist stereotypes that instills self-hate and white worship. For example, you are likely to regard respectful Am as “rare exceptions” and conversely ignore many disrespectful wm as “rare exceptions”.

    Several respondents described variations in gender dynamics within mainstream and ethnic settings that challenge notions of Asian and American worlds as monolithic opposites. Some talked of mothers who make all the decisions or fathers who do the cooking. These accounts were framed as exceptions to Asian male dominance.

    Asian American Women And Racialized Femininities ‘Doing’ Gender across Cultural Worlds
    http://www.irows.ucr.edu/cd/courses/232/pyke/femininities.pdf

     

    In fact, respondents do not generalise the male dominance of their fathers to all males, but only to Asian males.
     
    Meanwhile, in the case of white men, the positive traits of egalitarianism and chivalry associated with one white boyfriend are generalised to the entire group. This illustrates the power of white racial domination in winning the consent of the oppressed through the perpetuation and inculcation of racist images. It is not a matter of ‘seeing is believing’, but rather, the racialised assumptions the dominant society teaches the oppressed shape how and what they see (Pyke and Johnson).

    An Intersectional Approach to Resistance and Complicity - The Case of Racialised Desire among Asian American Women
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/07256860903477704


  • Empress of War

    @secondstrike

    the stereotypes assigned to the various races are accepted by the races themselves as reality, as fact, and racist love reigns.

    Kinda interesting that many of these Lus buy into AM stereotypes spread by whites (such as them being nerdy, weak, misogynistic, controlling, etc…yes, as ridiculously contradicting as those sound) yet they constantly fight the submissive stereotype, proudly declaring things like, “I’m a strong feminist! Not your typical quiet Asian girl”. You would think that since they’re so quick to embrace the negative stereotypes of AMs, they should be just as quick to embrace their own negative stereotypes.

    I guess my bottom line is that I think they know that those stereotypes about AMs are just that…stereotypes, not facts. But they pretend to buy into it anyways to keep AMs down because they’re selfish cunts. Otherwise, I can’t think of any other way to explain their behavior.


  • administrators

    @natalie_ng @suiko_no_shin
    There is also this important factor in human psychology that Arcterex wrote about elsewhere. I am paraphrasing here…

    There is a social hierarchy and we instinctively believe in and uphold this social order even if it’s to our detriment. We are prisoners to it through the racist indoctrination of Western societies.

    This study described the backlash Asians got when they defied negative stereotypes eg they were charismatic and assertive instead of nerdy and meek.

    Our research shows that racial stereotypes of East Asians in North America are prescriptive in addition to being descriptive and are likely to serve to keep East Asians in subordinate organizational positions and undesirable social roles in the workplace. The perception that East Asians are high in competence and low in warmth and dominance is likely to help perpetuate the idea that East Asians are ideal as subordinate employees, suited for technical competence positions, but are unqualified to be leaders and managers (e.g., Sy et al., 2010). In addition, the prescription that East Asians be nondominant helps to reinforce the glass (or ‘bamboo’) ceiling. Keeping East Asians ‘cold’ by punishing them when they are warm will help sustain the stereotype of ‘yellow peril’ and justify excluding them from affiliative social networks crucial for career success. Keeping East Asians nondominant should encourage this competent ‘model minority’ to stay in itsplace. Only through awareness of these stereotypes and how they function can we begin to overcome their deleterious effects. We encourage further research on the nature and operation of racial stereotypes.

    In other words, we are programmed inside this “Matrix” that causes us to self-police. Frank Chin also wrote about this in less formal but powerful way.

    “White racism enforces white supremacy. White supremacy is a system of order and a way of perceiving reality. Its purpose is to keep whites on top and set them free. Colored minorities in white reality are stereotypes. Each racial stereotype comes in two models, the acceptable and the unacceptable. The hostile black stud has his acceptable counterpart in the form of Stepin Fetchit. For the savage, kill‐crazy Geronimo, there is Tonto and the Hollywood version of Cochise. For the mad dog General Santa Ana there’s the Cisco Kid and Pancho. For Fu Manchu and the Yellow Peril, there is Charlie Chan and his Number One Son. The unacceptable model is unacceptable because he cannot be controlled by whites. The acceptable model is acceptable because he is tractable. There is racist hate and racist love.
     
    If the system works, the stereotypes assigned to the various races are accepted by the races themselves as reality, as fact, and racist love reigns. The minority’s reaction to racist policy is acceptance and apparent satisfaction…

    FRANK CHIN BLOGSITE: Racist Love
    https://chintalks.blogspot.com/2008/08/racist-love.html


  • Level 1 - Sergeant

    @natalie_ng said in Something that I always wondered about:

    The amount of brainwash is ridiculous.

    They’re brainwashed but they’re also people that have their own agency. They wanted this. They saw that they could grab power and they did it without no care for the repercussions.


  • Empress of War

    @secondstrike The amount of brainwash is ridiculous. Like I said, I could understand if they just went after WMs and couldn’t care less who AMs dated since they’re not interested in them anyways, but sounds like they want AMs to suffer. That’s just pure, unwarranted hatred against their own people. Kinda makes you wonder how they came to be so brainwashed in the first place when MOST LIKELY, their fathers are probably extremely laid-back (most Asian families have laid-back fathers) so they would’ve seen, growing up, that their fathers are not the “misogynistic, oppressive, control freak” that the media wishes them to think they are.

    @suiko_no_shin

    An AW holds power over the AM in that they do not get a mate, control the social circles by putting down AM, and exist as backup options for when the AW’s life goes wrong.

    That is beyond selfish and fucked up.

    So when people see AW shitting on AM, they see something is majorly wrong here.

    Yep, lots and lots of black women have started questioning this phenomenon, I noticed.

    Keep in mind that these women are typically 1-6’s in attractiveness and Asian men themselves don’t even want them. White men who go for these women either think that they are 7/8/9’s or that they enjoy getting easy sex. White men themselves are usually the bottom of the barrel 1-4 who is the worst, most useless in society.

    True. I was just telling secondstrike the other day how I thought most of the women who end up with WMs tend to be short and/or chubby/obese. I rarely see an attractive AF with WMs. Could it be possible that women who are rated on the lower end scale in terms of attractiveness are more likely to end up as Lus (self-hating) because they will blame their unattractive features/characteristics on their race?

    Social media enables people to share ideas and tell stories across great distances.

    Yep yep. This is why we should always take advantage of “online activism” such as twitter campaigns against ridiculous hashtags like hypermasculazn, to shout these idiotic Lus down and let the rest of the neutral observers see for themselves how selfish and retardedly self-hating many of these women are.


  • Level 1 - Sergeant

    Dating white men (ANY white man) is a status climb up. If she doesn’t increase in status, the very least is that she gains power over the WM.

    If Asian men are dating white women and are actually successful with them, their options diminish, so it’s an instinctual reaction to attack Asian men or even attempt to sabotage them by any means. Asian men dating white women interrupts the Asian woman’s power balance. An AW dating a WM shows that she’s desirable by many men but by swearing off AM, it reduces the value of AM. An AW holds power over the AM in that they do not get a mate, control the social circles by putting down AM, and exist as backup options for when the AW’s life goes wrong.

    But there’s a flaw in the AW’s plan. (a pretty big one at that). AM are people too and people are autonomous. AW may have bad mouthed AM to everyone they know, but other women can see AM with their own two eyes. If they’re experiencing an awesome AM then there’s nothing the AW can do about it. Degrading AM may have worked in the past because most people were not connected to the internet, but these days, it’s much harder to get away with it b/c everyone’s now about inclusion and representation. Most people are on the internet too.

    Other groups out there don’t know the intra-Asian conflicts so when they look on the outside in, they expect that both male/female needs to be treated fairly. But in AW’s mind, only AW needs to be treated fairly, not AM. So when people see AW shitting on AM, they see something is majorly wrong here. A lot of people are being woken up to the imbalance as well as the inconvenient realities that AW has made for themselves over the past decade or two.

    I also want to mention that AW’s self hatred factors into this as well. AW want to completely assimilate into white society however no race has ever fully assimilated into white society. Not even white society allows certain groups of it’s own into other more privileged groups. They see that other men desire white women but nobody desires the Asian woman (including Asian men). When they swear off all Asian men, it’s like saying “hey, I’m hotter than all you guys and you can’t have me”. Keep in mind that these women are typically 1-6’s in attractiveness and Asian men themselves don’t even want them. White men who go for these women either think that they are 7/8/9’s or that they enjoy getting easy sex. White men themselves are usually the bottom of the barrel 1-4 who is the worst, most useless in society.

    All in all, it is a long con by Asian women, aided/assisted/perpetrated by Hollywood. It’s not working anymore because people aren’t confined to where they consume their media. They can visit websites or download apps that give access to plenty of Asian content where Asian men are being properly portrayed. Social media enables people to share ideas and tell stories across great distances. Forums allow people to discuss and solve problems collectively. In the old days, it was easy to say AM are feminine and weak. Today, AM can get on the internet to learn about lifting, fashion, flirting, etc.


  • administrators

    @natalie_ng afwm is not just about “white preference”. It goes deeper. At the heart of many of these relationships is a gender war. Whether the Af realizes it or not, she has internalized lots of the hatred of Asian men/Asian culture that White society has indoctrinated us with.

    She’s not just dating a white guy. In her indoctrinated mind, she’s fighting against a non-existent “oppressive Asian patriarchy that seeks to oppress her”. She sees herself as some liberated women, who doesn’t realize the irony that she is in a relationship with exactly the sort of misogynistic, racist, oppressive, control freak and how they use them but do not respect them at all that she thinks Asian men represent.

    To women like her, Asian men are an enemy. She doesn’t want to see him happy. She wants revenge for all the “wrongs” he has been assigned by lying white males.


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